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= Additional troubleshooting =
<b>It the Network Troubleshooter above can't help</b>, you can try the steps below, and tell us (on IRC, or in the forums) what step you get stuck at. == Step 1 == From your hda itself (via ssh or at the desktop in a terminal), can you: # ping hda <small>(it should ping the IP of your HDA; this ensures the dns server is working)</small># ping router <small> (it should ping the IP of the router; this ensures your HDA can see the router)</small># ping 68.180.206.184 <small>(this ensures you can see the rest of the world)</small># ping yahoo.com <small> (this ensures your dns server can see the world)</small># Access http://hda in a browser (or use curl in a terminal) If the above does not work, try and fix it by double checking the settings. After the above works, you should be able to access  <code>http://hda</code> from the HDA machine's desktop! If the above works, '''then and only then''' you may turn off the DHCP server in your router. '''IMPORTANT: after turning off the DHCP server in your router, you must [[RenewIP|renew your client's IP addressesMore network troubleshooting]]page.''' == Step 2 == If you want to use the full functionality of your HDA, you '''must make sure your client has a DHCP lease from your HDA''' from here on, so let's move to one or more of the clients (after their network has restarted: # ping hda <small>(this ensures the client can see the DNS server in your HDA)</small># ping router <small>(this ensures the client can see your network gateway)</small># ping yahoo.com <small>(this ensures the client can see the world)</small>  If you want to stop by the [http://talk.amahi.org IRC channel] for help, it would speed things up to report where you are "stuck" in that list, like step 1.3, or 2.2. You should also say: * What client operating system are your other machines in the network using* At what point did you turn off your router DHCP (if you did)* At what point, relative to the above, did you restart (or ''release and'' renew the DHCP lease on the) clients
= Non Default Network Set-ups =